tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3917626248398447718.post4030166974900667963..comments2023-05-12T03:02:32.971-05:00Comments on Save the Lightwell: Battle of the Stats: Haste vs CritMongrrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04966611904001848517noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3917626248398447718.post-73080175806560822362010-02-26T10:20:28.429-06:002010-02-26T10:20:28.429-06:00Late to the party... sorry!
Have a look here for ...Late to the party... sorry!<br /><br />Have a look here for Zusterke's great article on crit vs. Haste for disc priests. It's a keeper. <br /><br />http://www.plusheal.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4937Paolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17287005260591066775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3917626248398447718.post-87102476871556983282010-01-21T21:04:02.970-06:002010-01-21T21:04:02.970-06:00All good resources, thanks for posting the links.All good resources, thanks for posting the links.Mongrrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04966611904001848517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3917626248398447718.post-62332105594533995742010-01-21T19:29:34.794-06:002010-01-21T19:29:34.794-06:00I hear ya. I tend to stack more by "feel&quo...I hear ya. I tend to stack more by "feel" on the haste issue. When I am disc I also rarely cast gheal, sticking mostly to fheal and penance (aside from bubbles), with the occasional POH, though I try to time that after the bubble for borrowed time.<br /><br />There are some more good resources out there but the computer won't let me paste links into this field (noooes). So I have to type them out. The horror.<br /><br />Maybe you know this already. Maybe you don't. But I'll share anyway.<br /><br />http://bobturkey.wordpress.com and look for his priest theorycrafting for 3.3 post. The last page has the relative stat weights of everything for holy & disc. He also has a good disc gear list post 3.3.<br /><br />http://divineaegis.haecceity.nu also has a L2Discipline series that talks about gearing.<br /><br />http://penancepriest.blogspot.com has "a graduate level review of disciplinary statistics" that also discusses this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3917626248398447718.post-41549758666100190032010-01-21T17:04:40.429-06:002010-01-21T17:04:40.429-06:00@Crankyhealer
This is why I personlly don't r...@Crankyhealer<br /><br />This is why I personlly don't read Elitist Jerks religiously, or view the ideas posted there as the single "right" way to do things.<br /><br />The 11% "hard cap" this post refers to is the GCD hard-cap... meaning that once you get there, the GCD will not benefit. Your cast-times will still continue to benefit from haste, even after you hit the GCD hard-cap.<br /><br />If the *only* thing you ever cast is PW:S and other instants... then you're right... there is never any reason at all to ever have more haste than that. <br /><br />If you're a MT healer though (which you should be, at least some of the time if you're Disc), chances are that you'll be casting other spells as well. Disc has this little gem called Penance, that still benefits from Haste, even after the GCD cap is reached. Also, the WS debuff prevents you from spamming PW:S on the MT, so you'll be forced to cast a Flash heal here and there, sometimes even without the haste benefit of Borrowed time, because Borrowed Time only benefits the single next spell after you use PW:S. You're not able to always cast PW:S in between every other cast, so while the talent is nice, it should not always assume it's up for every single cast.<br /><br />For Example. Currently, I have 568 unbuffed spell haste which is 17.34%. Now, I'm an artist, not a math person, but during a raid, *without* borrowed time, my FH cast time is still 1.1 seconds, which means it's still not bottlenecked yet by the GCD. This means that I *am* still gaining a benefit from spell haste, even though I have far more than the 154 needed to hit the GCD hard cap.<br /><br />This is all haste I'm picking up without even specifically going for it. I did not bother to read all the comments to that EJ post to see all the reasoning behind the argument, but like I said from the original post... I go with what I see in-game, and from what I'm seeing... there still *is* a benefit to gaining haste after the 11% GCD cap, even though according to EJ, you should *never* go over that.<br /><br />PoH is also a spell that greatly benefits from Haste as Disc. It all depends on what specific role you fill while healing during a raid. Every raid is different, and every healer is different. If you raid with a raid healer that never requires you to do any sort of AoE heal whatsoever, then a 2.4 sec PoH may be fine for you. Others, like myself, who finds themselves casting PoH quite often during some fights prefers the 2 sec PoH, and sub 2 secs when BT is up.<br /><br />It all comes down to what you're healing, and who you're healing with. Not all players, priests and raids are created equal, which may require you to heal in a different way.<br /><br />Good luck not going over that 11% with gear available today.Mongrrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04966611904001848517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3917626248398447718.post-68115665065400120312010-01-21T15:43:11.019-06:002010-01-21T15:43:11.019-06:00From what I understand from my limited knowledge o...From what I understand from my limited knowledge of "math" and applying that to what Elitist Jerks says... disc priests should not be haste capped. Ideally, you'll be casting bubbles like there's no tomorrow, and more often than not be under the borrowed time buff, which is 25% haste. See http://elitistjerks.com/f77/t83203-wotlk_healing_compendium_v3_3_arthas_downfall/<br /><br />"For a Disc priest, you gain 6% from Enlightenment, and an additional 5% from Wrath of Air, plus 3% from Swift Retribution/Moonkin Aura, leaving you with only 4.67% or 154 haste rating to gain from gear to reach the hard GCD cap on PW:S (given Borrowed Time)." <br />"Pick up haste up to ~ 11% (hard-cap). Absolutely do not stack more."<br /><br />But I can type "BAD" if you'd like :PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com